- October 7, 2015 at 11:53 am#22858
If this is here already somewhere…..apologies! You all know by now that I do to know how to “search” except for my own threads. So merge me, ban me, shoot me, disown me…..I don’t care. Here’s the trailer for “Vinyl” and an article. (I found it at Toronto’s Q107)
~CEOctober 7, 2015 at 12:09 pm#22862
I understand the sex drugs and rock and roll but am a bit perplexed by the violence association. I was there and don’t recall that ever being a big part of it all. Hysteria, wild abandon, self destructiveness yes, but violence? I guess Mr. Jagger and Mr. Scorsese will have to educate me about all that, perhaps just a necessary element to attract a wider TV audience.October 7, 2015 at 12:17 pm#22865
Perhaps the “violence” is a referral to the times in which ‘Vinyl’ takes place. Think of the Kray Brothers in London, the US mafia a`la the Godfather, violence involved in drug dealing, Altamont, the Hells Angels……there’s plenty of violence, methinks.
~CEOctober 7, 2015 at 12:30 pm#22867BreathParticipant
maybe he meant violins. Emily Litella was confused about this once…October 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm#22887
Perhaps the “violence” is a referral to the times in which ‘Vinyl’ takes place. Think of the Kray Brothers in London, the US mafia a`la the Godfather, violence involved in drug dealing, Altamont, the Hells Angels……there’s plenty of violence, methinks. ~CE
Yeah, always violence around if you look for it but it’s association with the music of the day is pretty spotty from my perspective. Most musicians were pretty anti-violence of all kinds. To me music has always been kind of the antithesis of violence, a way to bring people together with emotional content in a peaceful way. The great music produced in the era of the Vietman war was always a reaction and balance to the violence of war, imo. Of course I was never a thrash death metal guy either. Punk was of course anti-establishment but not really violent, per se. The violence association with Vinyl just kind of turns me off for some reason.October 29, 2015 at 7:29 pm#25793December 1, 2015 at 2:58 pm#29963CRParticipant
<b>Mick Jagger on ‘Raunchy’ Seventies Rock Drama ‘Vinyl'</b>
Rolling Stones frontman and Martin Scorsese take a deep dive into 1970s rock scene in new HBO series
By Will Hermes December 1, 2015
About 20 years ago, Mick Jagger had an idea for a dream project: an epic movie that would chart the history of the music business over several decades. To get his vision off the ground, he eventually recruited Martin Scorsese and Boardwalk Empire creator Terence Winter. As they worked, it became clear they couldn’t cram the whole story into one film. “It was very sprawling,” says Jagger. “And as TV became more refined and exciting and interesting to make, we decided to do it as a series.”
The result is Vinyl, which premieres on HBO in February. Set in New York in 1973, the show centers on Richie Finestra (played by Bobby Cannavale), a record-label president with a coke habit, a troubled marriage and a company losing its Midas touch. Cannavale, 45, enjoyed cramming for the role. He read histories of music of the era, like Love Goes to Buildings on Fire and the record-business chronicle Hit Men. He also “spent a lot of time with the right people” – including Patti Smith guitarist Lenny Kaye and David Johansen, frontman of the New York Dolls. “It’s not like researching a cop show,” Cannavale adds.
Being a Scorsese drama, there’s no shortage of sex, drugs and pathological violence; Andrew Dice Clay is particularly on point as a deranged, swing-club-loving radio exec. Along with all the period decadence, there’s plenty of music in the form of dramatizations of real-life bands like the Dolls (who we see playing a revelatory gig in the pilot) and, in flashbacks, various blues and R&B acts that Cannavale’s character fell in love with when he was first getting into the music business.
Yet the biggest star in Vinyl might be the streets of New York in the 1970s – “a pretty raunchy place,” says Jagger. “I like the milieu,” he adds. “[The show] was always going to be set there.” Both Jagger and Scorsese have depicted this New York before. Given the decade’s excesses, it wasn’t easy to perfectly recall every decades-old detail. “You do your research,” Jagger says. “And your research colors your memory.” But did the guy who sang “Shattered” ever actually see “people dressed in plastic bags directing traffic”? “Of course!” he says, laughing.
Gonna find my way to heaven, 'cause I did my time in hellDecember 1, 2015 at 3:53 pm#29969
The more I read about and see trailers of this thing, the less I care to watch it. My husband is in the film business and I’ve had my fair share of Marty. More Marty?
~CEDecember 1, 2015 at 8:29 pm#29992
The more I read about and see trailers of this thing, the less I care to watch it. My husband is in the film business and I’ve had my fair share of Marty. More Marty? ~CE
He’s got his ups and downs like every director/producer but after The Last Waltz he’s golden in my mind. Like the Stones after Exile and GHS, wouldn’t have to do much more and still sit high on the mountain.
What’s kind of strange is that Jagger has been quoted so often about not wanting to revisit the past and how he is anti-nostalgia, etc etc. Seems he may be softening up a bit in his old age. Of course the set lists are nostalgic, now a 70’s music biz show…what’s next an autobiography?December 1, 2015 at 9:27 pm#29996
NLust: I agree that early Marty is fantastic – ‘Mean Streets’ and ‘Taxi Driver’ are brilliant but my problem is that I’ve overdosed on Marty. Sometimes, he’s just TOO Marty.
~CEDecember 1, 2015 at 9:37 pm#29999stoneheartedParticipant
What’s kind of strange is that Jagger has been quoted so often about not wanting to revisit the past and how he is anti-nostalgia, etc etc. Seems he may be softening up a bit in his old age. Of course the set lists are nostalgic, now a 70’s music biz show…what’s next an autobiography?
It’s not that. He’s just looking at things from a business sense and understands what his audience wants (the Big Hits, the Hot Rocks) and what they don’t want (i.e., new album, too many new songs in the list). He is said to have attempted an autobiography in the late 80s, but claimed he couldn’t remember enough details to fill up a book. So he is said to have asked Bill Wyman for access to a warehouse space where Wyman stores lots of archival materials such as press clippings and the like. But supposedly Wyman refused, so Mick abandoned the project and returned the advance to the publisher.
Besides, how can he soften up when he refuses even to acknowledge his age? We’ll know he’s acknowledging his age when, like Keith, he finally gives up on hair dye.December 1, 2015 at 9:41 pm#30001SwissParticipant
If there’s money in it, he doesn’t have to reveal himself, and it’s stylish and popular I’d imagine Mick would be into almost anything.
strawberries *and* blueberriesDecember 1, 2015 at 10:32 pm#30003aliebParticipant
Debby Downers! I for one am excited about this show. I needed a new show to watch. And with the 70s revival that’s been happening in the last few years it could be a big hit.
just trying to do my jigsaw puzzle before it rains!December 2, 2015 at 9:35 am#30056February 7, 2016 at 12:08 pm#36327February 7, 2016 at 12:40 pm#36331munichhiltonParticipant
Apparently, Mick does a “tribute” to David at the end of this HBO special. From the news, it’s called ‘Memoriam’. (Have no link to back this up!!) ~CE
Here’s your link Cocaine:February 8, 2016 at 3:29 pm#36430
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