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  • November 30, 2017 at 1:29 pm #72726
    Marianita
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    Soci, that’s far out

    Taylor Swift performs on stage during the first out of four sold-out shows at Staples Center in Los Angeles, where she is continuing her 2013 RED world tour, on Aug. 19, 2013.

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 1:31 pm #72727
    Marianita
    Participant

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 2:39 pm #72733

    Now do I have to apologize to all of the ice cream eaters? Probably I should. This internet, I’ll tell you. This internet is a huge mindfvck for humanity. We get all this sideways information here. Information is no longer multiplying and moving forward as it should be, information is transmuting and moving sideways now. Half the information isn’t even real information anymore. Look, I’m sorry to the ice cream eaters, whoever you are. I don’t mean to offend the makers of ice cream either. The stuff just sits in my stomach like a rock and it makes me irregular. You probably didn’t need to know that. What good does ice cream do anyone? Indians of North America lived to be 100 in the years before they ever saw ice cream. Indians of North America say Jesus was over here too. He walked around over here and talked to people. That’s what everybody says. The Mormons say that. How could a bunch of people say all that stuff about Jesus if it wasn’t true? How would all that stuff just keep going if it wasn’t true? Who are the completists that need to read all of my posts btw? Maybe I should just call this section Down In The Groove? Or wtf is this now? I feel like in accepting Jesus I’ve accepted other people. I feel like that’s what I’ve done. I have no appetite for sin. I’m being serious. It’s like I’m not addicted to anything anymore, and I have no desire to punish myself with substances. That’s the best way I can describe how I feel right now. I have not any real desire to sin. I feel that this new reality of mine is a result of prayer. I pray to my Father in secret. I don’t attend church. I’m kind to people generally. I don’t need to try and change people of other faiths. I don’t need to change people at all. I don’t need to convert anyone. And again, I don’t even know what this ice cream stuff is about really. Maybe one person is reading this and they’ll be like yeah, I need to cut down on the ice cream. Stranger things have happened. Maybe the internet freezes our brains or something. I’m about out of words now. Yeah, that’s about it. What is rock ‘n roll anyway? What was it? Where are we now? I hope The Stones and Bob record something new. I have a good feeling about those guys. The world needs their music now. The world still does. I don’ feel like I’m down in the groove, but I feel like others think that I am because they can’t stop reading me or something. Oh well, so much for thoughts today on the internet. If I’ve let you down somehow, you’ve gotta read someone else now. What did I do? That looks like a lot of words. Maybe this machine is the only thing I feel addicted to right now? Like everyone else is. Like most people are. Isn’t that weird when you stop to think about it. We’re all addicted to this internet place, and we’re all deeply dissatisfied with our participation (not our position and our place, that’s something else) in this whole virtual world. Even Apple did a commercial recently advertising the fact that you can “do all the things you hate” with their new line of computers, or whatever computers are called now. They were actually using “hate” as a selling point. I think that was Apple and not Microsoft. The ad was on tv recently, like a couple of  months ago. Isn’t the sense of hate palpable sometimes within the computers? Don’t we all feel it on some level? These are just weird posts now. This is what you get with stream of consciousness, you get the whole stream.

    November 30, 2017 at 6:44 pm #72734
    Marianita
    Participant

    you can’t say no to tutti fuckin’ frutti or the Taylor ice cream

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 6:47 pm #72735
    Marianita
    Participant

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 6:51 pm #72736
    Marianita
    Participant

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 6:52 pm #72737
    Marianita
    Participant

    camel toe

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 6:53 pm #72738
    Marianita
    Participant

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 7:38 pm #72742
    Marianita
    Participant

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    November 30, 2017 at 10:03 pm #72743

    We’re the people who need to be converted, Marynita. Sometimes I need to make an effort to alter my own thinking and focus on love. We need to know that there is ultimate good in the universe. You and I do, Marynita, and we need to know the ultimate good is ultimately in charge. We will be reminded if we are fooled by hate. We will be reminded of what we need to do to change. We need to take certain measures, in our thinking, so that we can stay within our own bodies, when we need to be in our own bodies the most, while we’re here on earth. I can’t remember the dude’s name who called the last game of the World Series, but something he said before the game stuck with me. Name escape me sometimes. He said the team that would win the game would be the team who was the most in their own bodies. I was reminded at the time about something I had posted about shamanism before, on another board, and that the shaman leaves his or her own body regularly. Well, not everybody can be the shaman. Marynita, are we trying to get out of our own bodies all the time, you and me? These computers take us out of our bodies. And where do we go when we’re gone? Bob Costas has said some stuff that I remember. He calls a spiritual game. He brings everything in while he’s talking about sports.  I remember three things he said when he called the last LDS game with the Red Sox. He might be interested to know. Maybe Bob Costas should start posting. Btw the Patriots have the clear advantage in the NFL right now because they’re not celebrating. The celebrations are taking teams out of the game. They’re even risking injury to celebrate. Does that sound familiar to me and you, Marynita? Sure, it’s not a competition, trying to get to Heaven. We gotta take care of ourselves. Know what I’m saying? Then we can give back to others. John Gruden is a big Stones fan. Rock ‘n roll and sports go together, ask Mick Jagger. How much of rock ‘n roll is important just because of the dance-aspect alone? Lots. You gotta move. We gotta move. The ice cream is dangerous. Why can’t we all just dance anymore like nobody is looking? Bob sets up that atmosphere at his shows. It’s like the old world again, before computers, where everybody didn’t judge each other all the time, and people made an effort to get along with each other. The digital world is trying to take over the natural world. Can’t we see that we’re all turning into weird cyborgs or something? Is that what we want, to be less human and more like machines?

    November 30, 2017 at 11:17 pm #72744

    Keith and me need somebody else to remember for us. Do not x-ray. God loves us because we’re nice guys. That’s why everybody loves us. That’s why people can’t stop loving Keith and me. I’m glad to be anywhere myself. If The Stones could have had a kid that would have been me. I was raised by good, hard working people. But something else happened to me. I went to church with the neighbors. Thankfully they were Baptists. This isn’t going to morph into an evil story about Catholic dungeons or anything. Why is it that the Catholics still have this big thing for dungeons? They can’t let go of those damp dirty prisons. Who’s down there? Who’s been down there? Do you know them? Shouldn’t you say something? Who who who is The Devil again? The virgin priest? According to scripture that would make sense. I like Catholic people. Don’t get me wrong. I love the people who go to the churches. It’s just that some of the truly evil people, that The Stones have been speaking out against all of these years, well, some of those truly evil people are still in charge, even to this day. Mick Jagger isn’t The Devil. Look to your churches to find The Devil. Look in the mirror, then change your own thoughts. Dance out The Devil. Seek happiness amongst your fellow humans. Don’t allow yourself to become angry online and to disconnect from your body. Don’t buy into all of the negativity online. Don’t hide here and write horrible things about people. There’s mirrors inside the minds of crazy faces. We all need a metaphorical Pat Garrett to hunt us down sometimes. If Bob Dylan can’t heal you he’ll kill you. That’s how that works. You don’t want to question what side Bob Dylan is on because then you don’t really know what side you’re on. Your foundation is messed up if you start trying to tell Bob Dylan how to think. Must have been betrayed by everybody to blame Bob Dylan for anything. Yeah, Bob Dylan is a good guy. Who are all the critics on the internet anyway? Look at all the times the green and orange people have been allowed to kvetch endlessly. I would like to ban the moderators from the major Stones and Bob boards. Stop harboring critics and encouraging people to obsess negatively about these great artists. This whole model is fvcked up on these computers. Our thinking – as human beings at large, if you can even imagine that – is changing in not-so-good ways as a result of these machines. Are these phones really that attractive? How much misinformation can anyone absorb before they’re changed completely? People can’t get along with each other because of these computers. That’s what I’m saying. Hang around with the young ones in the 20-something generation if you want to find out. That’s why guys like Mick Jagger and me still appeal to the girls. We come from a time when people still made sense. These phones? This is a messed up culture. What do we really learn here? What repeated stimulus plays in our blue light-influenced minds? Feel the heat that these devices emit. Feel how they make a whuring sound, like they’re always ticking and alive, like they’re really these buzzing digital creatures in our hands, telling us lies and corrupting our thinking. That’s what these machines can do.

    December 1, 2017 at 2:21 am #72745

    Or will he? I&I becomes PIB when the law is made anew. 99.999% of the time everything can be cool. Don’t believe all the lies you read on the internet. I gotta remember not to tell any while I’m here. Try not to tell any yourself while you’re here. That’s kind of hard to do sometimes if we play fast and loose with the truth. The internet encourages that. There are no rules here. Look closely. I don’t mean this site. I mean look at all of the loosening up of morals that has occurred everywhere because of the internet. My morals jumped ship on the internet. You told yourself a lie. That’s  alright, pretty baby, I told myself one, too. Maybe cool doesn’t mean the same thing it used to, either. I don’t know. Maybe sometimes the younger generations thinks that keeping cool is really keeping quiet. Maybe not. That might just be a thought. The immediate younger generation, they also acts like the 50s generation. Young adults work their asses off these days. The ones that I know do. Tho in this virtual reality, where truth bends to suit the keepers of neutrality, how do we even know what we’re saying sometimes? In this world that we are reading right now, who sets the rules? Ask yourselves that. We gotta get warm sometimes too. The computer kids can be very  matter-of-fact. Then you gotta question that. Where are they getting their facts? No regulation means people can tell lies and get away with everything. Now I don’t want Trump to think I’m campaigning against him. Maybe Bob Costas has something in his mind about Trump needing to fix our economy, or get it going again or something. Maybe Trump only wants 4 years? I don’t know. Nobody wants to be a Democrat anymore. I know that. I’m saying now is the time for a third party. The Democratic party is the dead party, Matt Taibbi. I thank all of the people in the party for sending me emails that go directly to my spam folder, btw. I don’t want to take anything away from anyone’s hard work. I’m sure most of those people sending those emails wouldn’t mind jumping ship themselves from the Democratic party. And if I’m wrong? The vote gets split and Trump wins again. What are the Dems willing to do? We are really the dead party, though. We need to open our eyes. We have to admit that to ourselves now, our party is dead. Don’t get me wrong, party leaders. But don’t you want something new, too? Can we have a Tiger mascot or something? Jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule. So start looking around and realize you got some good stuff there. You got the jewels already. You got the silver. You got the gold. Democrats please take your hearts elsewhere. The color blue is fine. I don’t want to change the color. But you know what? On second thought.. I’m even getting sick of being aligned with that color on some level. Look how we’re all being played against each other, all of us average citizens, by two primary colors. That’s messed up. I’m tired of all the red and the blue. I don’t know? Orange party anyone? Maybe orange wouldn’t work. But isn’t the whole blue thing even oppressive on some level now? We’re blue. We’re down. Like that. They’re all hot and fired up – red. This whole culture is tripping right now. All we have to do is change everything. Whenever they start printing 3-D lungs I’ll be happy. This is essentially an older medium from the late 90s to early 2000s, that’s what message boards are. The message boards have been mismanaged because people have become used to criticizing the great artists here without impunity. I’ve even become accustomed to doing that here on bad days. We come here to judge, don’t we? We come here to be lied to and to tell lies also, right? What is this internet exactly? Where are we right now? We all seem to tolerate an amount of hatred in our daily lives because of these computers. Maybe I should have demanded that those doctored pics be deleted? But what then? Then the next day some more superimposed pics show up? And it’s supposed to be funny? It’s not funny, Maryanita. How could we possibly quantitatively measure the concept of actual hatred on the internet? The sense of hatred online is palpable at times, and maybe even more-so than we’ve become used to realizing. The hate can be subversive here. Are we all used to hate now? Wtf? It would seem that on some major and minor levels computers have desensitized us all to the idea of hatred. Wow. And sometimes maybe even this stuff is encouraged because we’re allowed to hate-on the objects of our obsessions online. We’re encouraged to obsess here. Don’t go too off-topic. No, go way off topic. And keep going. That’s what I say. What or where is this place’s foundation? You know, where we all are right now. Where are we and where is the love? Any day now, any day now, I shall be released.

    December 1, 2017 at 12:57 pm #72748
    StrongBeach
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    It’s not the internet, Soc.

    The internet is inherently neither good nor evil. It’s just an amplifier. It takes what’s already there and provides signal boosts which can be powerful, if erratic. It takes “human nature” and amplifies it. It provides access to “information” which is awe-inspiring, forbidding, and dread-inducing. It does not create fear. But fear is its end result as it strips away layer after layer of institutional ‘comforts’ and reveals us to be what we have always been: venal apes attempting to either deny or nurture our own better natures.

    We’re not yet evolved to the point where access to this level of ‘information’ does not drive us insane. We become either terrified, or angry, or we withdraw, focusing on our children, our opioids, our rock bands, or our stamp collections. If we survive many more generations, we may evolve frontal cortexes which are capable of processing this torrent without losing our minds.

    As I write this, the genius of our current system reveals itself in all its shabby glory: the greatest transfer of wealth in human history is being enacted on the floor of the US Senate, in broad daylight, in front of EVERYONE … and not one of us can lift a finger to stop it. We KNOW, all of us, deep down, that it is fundamentally wrong for the rich to get richer. Even the rich know this. But, because of the internet, they also know their time is running out. Trump’s presidency is a bank heist, pure and simple. Ignore the racism, the xenophobia, the ridiculous posturing on international affairs … he’s there for one reason, and one reason only: to oversee the transfer of as much of the country’s wealth as possible to the donor class. They know–and he knows–that they will be caught, eventually. They know this ride can’t continue. The writing is on the wall. So, they are grabbing the brass ring, pulling the lever, grinding the gears one last time to make permanent the destruction of the already-disappearing ‘middle class’ and the enslavement of the poor folk … before the revolution comes and the streets run red with the blood of the citizenry.

    Bob knows all this; he’s seen it many times before; he has the gift of hindsight, of foresight, of second, third, and fourth sight. It must be exhausting, all that seeing. It must make him want to lay his burden down and let someone new take it up … and yet he stays on the road, he keeps searching, he abandons his audience knowing that they will follow him anywhere. For how many prophets do we have nowadays? Was Steve Jobs a prophet? Is Jeff Bezos? Barack Obama? Donald Trump? Draymond Green? Bernie Sanders? Don DeLillo?

    All we can do is ricochet back and forth in this game of horrorshow pachinko, touching others when we can, each of us a lonely metal ball rocketed helter-skelter by forces we can neither identify nor control. And we hope to touch each other through our metal skins, at least now and then, to feel less lonely and afraid. I hope we make it.

    December 1, 2017 at 5:24 pm #72754

    Excuse me, but weren’t you banned from the other place because you were saying you hated people (The Stones) all the time? Or at least you got on a roll like that for a while. You’re being totally reasonable now. That’s a brilliant post from you, except for maybe the first sentence, and another place where you go abstractly-dark. Nobody’s perfect. See what happened. You got away from the internet for a while and now you’re back to being your generally brilliant self again. Happy now? Did I shame people on this thread? And Keith Richards thinks he’s an asshole? I didn’t mean to! To all of my readers: that’s not what I wanted. What was it I wanted? Well, you better read on…I didn’t mention Indians and ice cream with the intention of shaming anyone. I was going back to the Crazy Horse and Red Cloud days. I don’t want to start offending people on the computer again. Btw, all I’m asking is that the superimposed pics be removed. Time to turn off the internet and read some more history books. Damn, this post is getting long. I swear I’m getting a life now. Or, probably after the next post….

     

     

    December 2, 2017 at 4:00 am #72755
    December 2, 2017 at 9:50 am #72757
    StrongBeach
    Participant

    Excuse me, but weren’t you banned from the other place because you were saying you hated people (The Stones) all the time?

    I think so, But I’m not sure. One day I could log in and spew my vitriol; the next day I couldn’t. Seemed a bit strange but in retrospect not surprising. Perhaps I was ‘reported’ by some under assistant west coast promo man, perhaps I crossed too many lines, or slayed too many sacred cows. In any event, I cannot imagine a less interesting topic of discussion. Life goes on. But for the record: I love people; I just hate The Stones. They’re chickenshits.

    December 2, 2017 at 4:52 pm #72760

    What are we doing here? Happy Holidays! This may be the craziest post of all time. I think I’m trying to be annoying now. Probably that’s it. Remember: You don’t have to read this. I wasn’t trying to fat shame my readers. I feel weird about that now. I’m a weird dude anyway. I kind of look like a giraffe myself; not totally, just kind of. As it turns out I can’t really pray all of my problems away. Where is the website for women who love men that look like giraffes? And how does the man who looks like the giraffe become the body image troll? I didn’t mean to. I swear. How do the machines turn us into checkers? Something starts there. And have we created a new sense of what we perceive as normal because of computers? I think the seeds of the fascistic mindset are here on the internet. We bring ourselves here; but it would seem that something extra is added here also; especially with repeated exposure to the blue light. One thing I’ve noticed is that the imidiately-younger adult generation can be obsessed with body image. The young adults of the new generation had some exposure to viewing porn. They did. They found ways to find porn. I ask people weird questions. This is what the younger adults tell me. Maybe people are supposed to look a certain way in their minds? Computers made age just a number. Mick Jagger and me probably think that’s cool because we think 20-something girls are cool. They think we’re cool. So what’s the problem? Picture Brad Pitt’s crazy bald uncle who got into drugs. I don’t want to be too hard on myself. Perhaps giving up dairy about a month before The Stones show would be a good idea. That’s how Mick Jagger has me thinking. Thanks, Mick Jagger. The sports people can be obsessed with body image. Can’t they? That’s great when it’s their own selves that they’re obsessed with. That’s what they do for a living. But what if they turn that-thing in their thinking outward? Do we have some young fascists coming up these days because of the internet? It would seem so. Maybe they’re behind the scenes. And they’re like the hungry cats in the jungle, maybe, and all the weird people are their prey here? It kind of looks like that sometimes. It can be kind-of like that if you look through a darker lens. I’m just saying it’s a mindset. The hate can start here. And if it’s in our mind already, it’s amplified here. You are correct, Strong One, on that one. I’m mostly not a hateful person. Where do the foxes and giraffes go to get away from the hunters nowadays? Can we make a new internet with rules or something now? Like an alternate internet? Well, you can’t even use the word ‘alternate’ these days. Think again. We already have the internet. We have the internet of things, too. Can we have the internet of love now or something? Bring back rock ‘n’ roll and get rid of the phones, that’s what I say. You can go to a  Bob Dylan show and dance the night away, mostly free of the fear that someone will get you on camera and put you on the internet. The fear is here. And the fear exists out there, as a result of the internet. The hate exists here and it can travel to the waking world without notice sometimes. Think about that. Where is the hate coming from in the world that wasn’t here before the computers took over? Maybe I should be asking myself what kind of disguise will I have to wear when I see The Stones again? Lol. Funny, when I think about it..In 2002, when I saw them last, I was dancing my ass off with my girlfriend, and nobody was pointing phones at anybody then. That’s when phone culture was just starting out. Everybody had flip phones with lousy cameras. Stop pointing your phone at me. That’s what I’m saying today. Everywhere I go, somehow, like once a day, I end up thinking that. Is everybody else trying to make everything else their own show nowadays because of the phones? You go out and somebody takes your picture. Who is protecting us from the phones today? Don’t we all need shelter from the phones or something? And we’re all looking at ourselves all the time. I will never have a body like Johnny Atlas, no matter how hard I try or how much I work out. Where is the revolution for men? Democrats are the weird dudes. Women are allowed to look any way they want to now, except when they’re being fat shamed in the shadow world. Right? Don’t shame them. I’m just wondering where the revolution for dudes is? Why are dudes all supposed to look a certain way? We’re all locked into this selfie-generation-thing now, though, aren’t we? The selfie kids have taken over and made us all obsessed with ourselves. Btw some chick needs to run with Bernie Sanders as VP in 2020. Thanks to the completists for reading. You can stop reading this at any time if you want to. This is my weekend. I’m banned on the other boards, so I have no topics now. This is what I wanted to say on all of the threads.. Chick for president, with Bernie VP. Bernie is one tough guy, and he’s not even truly old yet himself. That’s how time has changed. People are going to start living to be 150 soon enough. How do we get from this era to that era without allowing sideways information to stall scientific progress? That’s what happens when lies pile up and block science from progressing. The information stops multiplying and moving forward. We don’t want that. When you think about it, Mick Jagger really started the revolution for dudes in the 60s. He created a different model for us all. We are more free as men on this planet because of Mick Jagger. Now if we could all dance more and fight less, then science could prevail and not war. Can’t everyone see that? Doesn’t it seem like everything is the abbreviated version now? Look up the Cliff Notes for my posts, they’re listed under: crazy ass dude on the internet who supposedly really looks like a giraffe. Now I want to give my female readers a better image of me. Ready? I turn from the giraffe to the cat, and you don’t know what I really look like. I’m an illusion on the internet. I really look like kind-of a big cat with a beard. Now I have Kyle Brandt’s jawline. The NFL people are laughing. Sweat it out. That’s what the Indians used to tell me. I am fearful, or I am strong. I choose. I choose to be the cat or the giraffe. Tiger, tiger, burning bright. That was my third thought, in three second’s time, when I first looked at the tag on the lamb’s wool blanket. The completists will know what I mean. Check my Cliff Notes. Why do you read me? Am I really that interesting? I live today in my body. No real death of myself takes place, as a result of any of this stuff on the internet. But whom do we become when we replace our old selves with our new selves? My old self effectively dies, and my new self is born. Taylor Swift is cool. Now she has me thinking. I want to be good. Don’t you? We’re all googling lies on google. Have you noticed that? You google all day and then you do wrong all night. Isn’t that what Bob was really saying by googling the Cliff Notes and quoting google, and handing in his lecture, like five minutes before it was due? That’s what we’re all doing now. I said “Scripture” and didn’t capitalize. Remember that? I send words to the internet. I’m not trying to say I’m a big deal. I’m no bigger than you, dear reader. This is supposed to be for fun, all of this message board stuff is. I’m pulling my Bible out of a stuck drawer today. I have to literally pry it open. I won’t check the site for a while after logging out. Consider this the unabridged shenanigans of Soc. I don’t want to get too heavy on people. I will check back with this site next year, probably. That’s the thing, when I stop checking the checking stops. Once this site off favorites it’s off.. Hopefully EOMS will even be here next year. Everybody have a safe and happy holiday season. Can’t wait for The Stones tour and Bob’s new album! I have books literally piling up… Taking up space…. My eyes feel like they’re falling off my face. Be well, God bless.

    December 3, 2017 at 12:53 pm #72761
    Marianita
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    December 3, 2017 at 12:55 pm #72762
    Marianita
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