Is there a better song in the Stones canon, than VU's "Sunday Morning"?

  • May 15, 2016 at 10:17 am #47381
    treaclefingers
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    May 15, 2016 at 3:39 pm #47383
    stonehearted
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    I’d say there are several, and that Sunday Morning is one of the lesser Velvet Underground songs — which is a compliment, because there were many great songs over those four albums as well as numerous outtakes that filled up two more albums for release decades later.

     

    Actually, I’ve always thought Sunday Morning so pop-oriented and “sunny” that it could have been a contender for space on either of the first couple of Monkees albums, sort of similar in mood and arrangement to the song Carole King wrote for The Monkees, Sometime In The Morning.

    May 15, 2016 at 4:48 pm #47384
    StrongBeach
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    I’d say there are several, and that Sunday Morning is one of the lesser Velvet Underground songs — which is a compliment, because there were many great songs over those four albums as well as numerous outtakes that filled up two more albums for release decades later. Actually, I’ve always thought Sunday Morning so pop-oriented and “sunny” that it could have been a contender for space on either of the first couple of Monkees albums, sort of similar in mood and arrangement to the song Carole King wrote for The Monkees, Sometime In The Morning.

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    Ahh, the Monkees version of “Sometime in the Morning” was SUCH a great record! I’m not sure I ever knew it was a Goffin/King song so thanks for that info, SH.

    Another mellowish Sunday morning song, this one written by one K. Kristofferson:

    May 15, 2016 at 4:56 pm #47385
    StrongBeach
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    I’d nominate “Train Round the Bend” from Loaded as the best VU song in the Stones canon:

     

    May 17, 2016 at 12:41 pm #47500
    Marianita
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    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    May 17, 2016 at 12:43 pm #47502
    Marianita
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    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    May 17, 2016 at 12:56 pm #47509
    StrongBeach
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    My favorite VU song. Ridiculous that it was conceived and recorded in 65/66; talk about being ahead of your time!

    May 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm #47522
    treaclefingers
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    My favorite VU song. Ridiculous that it was conceived and recorded in 65/66; talk about being ahead of your time!

    indeed ahead of it’s time.

    I know it’s pretty ‘pop’ as well, but always loved Sweet Jane.

    May 17, 2016 at 4:20 pm #47523
    stonehearted
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    This is also a very pretty VU song, and I love John Cale’s backing vocals, lending the tune an additional melodic dimension.

    May 17, 2016 at 4:38 pm #47524
    StrongBeach
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    My favorite VU song. Ridiculous that it was conceived and recorded in 65/66; talk about being ahead of your time!

    indeed ahead of it’s time. I know it’s pretty ‘pop’ as well, but always loved Sweet Jane.

    One of rock’s great riffs.

    May 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm #47525
    StrongBeach
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    This is also a very pretty VU song, and I love John Cale’s backing vocals, lending the tune an additional melodic dimension.

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    So this song basically became “Caroline Says (II)” on the Berlin album?

    May 17, 2016 at 5:37 pm #47532
    stonehearted
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    So this song basically became “Caroline Says (II)” on the Berlin album?

    Well, what do you know? I guess so! I must admit I’ve never listened to the Berlin album all the way through. It might have made sense for Reed to have recycled this tune at the time, because Stephanie Says (recorded in 1968) was not officially released until 1985 for the collection VU. I think the most impressive thing about this/these songs is that Reed managed to find a rhyme for Alaska — not the easiest thing to achieve in a standard pop song approach, if you ask me.

     

    May 18, 2016 at 4:42 am #47544
    Marianita
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    My favorite VU song. Ridiculous that it was conceived and recorded in 65/66; talk about being ahead of your time!

    indeed ahead of it’s time. I know it’s pretty ‘pop’ as well, but always loved Sweet Jane.

    me too, and i like the guitar intro on rocknroll animal. Great when the song kicks in at 3:20

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    May 18, 2016 at 4:52 am #47545
    Marianita
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    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    May 18, 2016 at 11:55 am #47568
    Marianita
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    What is it? a pernod? give me it immediatly 🙂 Love this one, its the beginning of a new age

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    May 19, 2016 at 10:54 am #47683
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    My favorite VU song. Ridiculous that it was conceived and recorded in 65/66; talk about being ahead of your time!

    indeed ahead of it’s time. I know it’s pretty ‘pop’ as well, but always loved Sweet Jane.

    One of rock’s great riffs.

    going to B minor before starting the riff over I think is it’s cache.

    May 19, 2016 at 2:27 pm #47712
    job
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    Yeah…like 100 of them.  Also there are like 20 better VU tunes.

    May 19, 2016 at 3:00 pm #47733
    Marianita
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    100 better stones songs than “sunday morning”? . Can you name them?

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

    May 19, 2016 at 3:11 pm #47735
    Breath
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    1. 100 better stones songs than “sunday morning”? . Can you name them?

      In alphabetic order too, please

    May 19, 2016 at 3:16 pm #47736
    Marianita
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    1. 100 better stones songs than “sunday morning”? . Can you name them?

      In alphabetic order too, please

    he he

    Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?

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