Album Discussion: Goats Head Soup (1973)

  • December 5, 2017 at 4:09 pm #72791
    Cocaine Eyes
    Participant

    Underrated but an utterly brilliant album. It was difficult to follow EOMS but this album shines with Taylor, the vocals are beautiful, the melodic guitars are sublime, Keith is vulnerable. A perfect album for this season. Please add your thoughts. 

    Thanks ~CE ☃️

    December 5, 2017 at 4:16 pm #72792
    Cocaine Eyes
    Participant

    This one steals my heart away. Comin’ Down Again:

    ~CE 🌸

    December 6, 2017 at 6:36 pm #72798
    Marianita
    Participant

    I love this album and maybe the the most played Stones album in my house for the last years. Dancing with Mr.D was a pleasent surprise last tour and they played it well. Now i’m waiting for some more songs from this album to be played live (again or for the first time) as well. I’m sure Keith could give a nice performance of Coming down again. Drop Happy, tired of hearing Keith playing or singing happy in a not so good way. I have a dream someone said, the dream is bring back Taylor and play this album live. And they could play a ten minute long freaky version of can you hear the music, let Taylor out of the cage and we will have a hell of a performance. What song is not to like from this album ?

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    December 7, 2017 at 5:14 am #72806
    Marianita
    Participant

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    December 7, 2017 at 10:14 am #72821
    Upgreydd
    Participant

    GHS is a good album for listening to Charlie Watt’s Drumming.  The Band was hot off the road, in between the 72 and 73 tours and he has his full chops.  You can really hear it throughout.

    December 10, 2017 at 10:27 pm #72835
    D
    Keymaster

    I find this album to be one of the most interesting releases they have ever put out. Sticky Fingers is aggressive. Exile is dense. Goats Head Soup is a comedown album. As a kid I remember really digging the more ‘rocking’ tunes, but as I got older I really started to enjoy the subtle joys of the more relaxed numbers. Coming Down Again, Can You Hear The Music, Winter…. I’ll listen to this tomorrow…

    December 11, 2017 at 4:59 am #72836
    DandelionPowderman
    Participant

    There are some fantastic tunes on it (Coming Down Again, Angie, Can You Hear The Music, Heartbreaker, 100 Years Ago, Star Star), but the wholeness of it never really got to me. Undoubtedly, there is a vibe on this album, but some songs just don’t fit in to that (Star Star, Dancing With Mr. D., Angie), either sonically (Angie) or vibe-wise (Silver Train, Dancing With Mr. D.).

    Had the rockers been swapped with more melancholic songs, we would have had a very different-sounding Stones masterpiece, imo.

    So it might have been a question of going all the way with this one – it could have been a concept-ish album.

    Instead we got «Junkie music», according to Keith 🙂

    I’m being extremely critical now, as I play GHS regularly. However, it could have been up there with the other classics, and I’m sort of dabbling with the idea of why that didn’t happen…

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    My cards are on the table

    December 12, 2017 at 7:29 am #72843
    Marianita
    Participant

    There are some fantastic tunes on it (Coming Down Again, Angie, Can You Hear The Music, Heartbreaker, 100 Years Ago, Star Star), but the wholeness of it never really got to me. Undoubtedly, there is a vibe on this album, but some songs just don’t fit in to that (Star Star, Dancing With Mr. D., Angie), either sonically (Angie) or vibe-wise (Silver Train, Dancing With Mr. D.). Had the rockers been swapped with more melancholic songs, we would have had a very different-sounding Stones masterpiece, imo. So it might have been a question of going all the way with this one – it could have been a concept-ish album. Instead we got «Junkie music», according to Keith 🙂 I’m being extremely critical now, as I play GHS regularly. However, it could have been up there with the other classics, and I’m sort of dabbling with the idea of why that didn’t happen…

    I have never thought of it as a concept album but it’s a interesting thought, trading Starfucker with Moonlight mile and trading Silver train with Let it loose would have been something. I suggest Keith return to Junk since the most of his/Stones work during Keith’s junk period is awesome, as soon as they “straigtened” up the fun was over but the money kept coming though. I like junkie music, getting drunk and stoned late at night playing velvet underground is highly recommended, Shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather
    Whiplash girl child in the dark, And what costume shall the poor girl wear
    To all tomorrow’s parties, And I guess that I just don’t know
    And I guess that I just don’t know

     

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    December 12, 2017 at 9:55 am #72848
    Marianita
    Participant

    1973

    K&A

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    December 12, 2017 at 9:58 am #72849
    Marianita
    Participant

    Taylor,Taylor,Taylor…………

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    December 12, 2017 at 10:04 am #72850
    Marianita
    Participant

    https://youtu.be/OlM_m8AIP-k?t=809

    https://youtu.be/OlM_m8AIP-k?t=2507

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    December 12, 2017 at 3:35 pm #72857
    Cocaine Eyes
    Participant

    And the Demos & Outtakes, Goat’s Head Soup:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wbLUQd79B0

    ~CE ☃️

    December 12, 2017 at 4:31 pm #72858
    Upgreydd
    Participant

    I’ve tried getting into Can You Hear The Music a few times over the years and it didn’t  take.   Its the only song I skip on the album.

     

    December 13, 2017 at 2:32 pm #72867
    Marianita
    Participant

    I’ve tried getting into Can You Hear The Music a few times over the years and it didn’t take. Its the only song I skip on the album.

    Can’t you feel the magic?

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    February 13, 2018 at 11:55 pm #73306
    Dewy
    Participant

    First heard GHS in the 70s when I was still in school. Magnificent stuff then and ever since. The sound in places is so good, it would make your hair stand on end. Played it again and again. By the time I saw them live in ’83, they were a less impressive band. This would probably have been one of the three best times to catch them, the first being ’66 and the third being ’78. IMHO, I should add…

    February 14, 2018 at 8:01 am #73309
    Marianita
    Participant

    First heard GHS in the 70s when I was still in school. Magnificent stuff then and ever since. The sound in places is so good, it would make your hair stand on end. Played it again and again. By the time I saw them live in ’83, they were a less impressive band. This would probably have been one of the three best times to catch them, the first being ’66 and the third being ’78. IMHO, I should add…

    You saw them on the legendary “undercover 83” tour? to me the Stones 69-73 is the ultimate live act, together with 78 and 81. If i have to pick one tour i’d go for the 69 tour (or maybe the 73 tour or the 78 tour), the beginning of the golden era. The whole drop in drop out 69 atmosphere together with the greatest rocknroll band in the world surely would have done it for me.

    https://youtu.be/cz5uWBl_35o?t=53

    Mick Jagger, Charlie Watts and Keith Richards 1969

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    February 14, 2018 at 8:10 am #73311
    Marianita
    Participant

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    February 14, 2018 at 4:05 pm #73312
    Dewy
    Participant

    To be honest Marianita, I was quite disappointed with their performance in ’83. The gig was at Slane Castle in Ireland and the vast majority of those who attended were rapturous in their approval. The landscape of the concert area is a natural bowl shape and they sat back up on the slopes and enjoyed it as a sing-along, more than anything else. They weren’t real stones fans per se whereas I already had 14 stones albums by the time I was 16 and I was shocked at the gap between the performance I saw (aged 23) and accounts of their gigs.

    In those days, the only live recordings generally available for comparison (in Ireland) were album releases. My benchmark was Get Yer Ya-Ya’s and the band that recorded it, didn’t show up that day. Mick actually forgot the lyrics to one or two of their oldest hits (‘Time is on my side’ was one and ‘Under My Thumb’ was the other.

    Keith was a perfectly adequate rhythm guitarist and the gig still had some great moments but I left it like the fan described in one of the many stones books I’d read up to then, (I forget the title but it might have been written about the infamous’ ’72 tour) who finds every band he sees, ‘Not as good as the Stones’ until he actually sees the Stones and pronounces them ‘Not as good as the stones’.

    I’ll always be a Stones fan but it’s always been a widely acknowledged fact that their live performance could vary wildly.

    February 14, 2018 at 4:26 pm #73313
    Dewy
    Participant

    Hi Marianita.

    Can I ask if you’re a moderator? Because some of the posts I made last night, seem to have been removed without any explanation. I posted something very funny that I found on a humour website that is purely Stones-related. It’s not about Neil Young for instance which I was surprised to see as a topic on a Stones site (although definitely not offended by it!) I didn’t post anything that could possibly be considered offensive by anyone who claims to be a fan of the group that were always considered the most outrageous (as well as the greatest) rock’n’roll band in the world. So I’m baffled as to why the two posts I’m talking about would be removed.

    Cheers,

    Dewy.

    February 15, 2018 at 11:18 am #73315
    Marianita
    Participant

    To be honest Marianita, I was quite disappointed with their performance in ’83. The gig was at Slane Castle in Ireland and the vast majority of those who attended were rapturous in their approval. The landscape of the concert area is a natural bowl shape and they sat back up on the slopes and enjoyed it as a sing-along, more than anything else. They weren’t real stones fans per se whereas I already had 14 stones albums by the time I was 16 and I was shocked at the gap between the performance I saw (aged 23) and accounts of their gigs. In those days, the only live recordings generally available for comparison (in Ireland) were album releases. My benchmark was Get Yer Ya-Ya’s and the band that recorded it, didn’t show up that day. Mick actually forgot the lyrics to one or two of their oldest hits (‘Time is on my side’ was one and ‘Under My Thumb’ was the other. Keith was a perfectly adequate rhythm guitarist and the gig still had some great moments but I left it like the fan described in one of the many stones books I’d read up to then, (I forget the title but it might have been written about the infamous’ ’72 tour) who finds every band he sees, ‘Not as good as the Stones’ until he actually sees the Stones and pronounces them ‘Not as good as the stones’. I’ll always be a Stones fan but it’s always been a widely acknowledged fact that their live performance could vary wildly.

    nice read Dewy. It must have been awesome to see the Stones at Slane castle 82′ though, all those people, it must have been some partying. It’s been some years since the Stones were as good as the Stones 🙂

    Slane 82′

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